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what is the problem
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kura sabaiko sunnu decision aafai linu
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plz check floor sheet. most of the brokers make transaction above 1.5 to 2 crore. that means they earn 1 lakh a day.
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What does he do, sell book regarding NEPSE, patrakar???

If he is no negative about NEPSE, he should pack his bag and go to Afghanistan or Qatar.

No body says- Engineering is the worst job so I am going to study engineering.

One should remember, NRN is coming and listed companies in NEPSE are the most cheapest in the world.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Durga Prasad Kafle AKA Nepal share bazar ko Savior for some and villain to others post this in social media.


नेपाल को पुजी बजार कम्जोर बजार हो कुनै सनो समुह ले उथुल पुथुल पर्न सक्ने कसैको कुनै गुट को भर मा चलेको रज्नैतिक पार्टी जस्तो कम्जोर बजार छ, न कुनै कारण चहिन्छ बढ्न न कुनै कारण चहिन्छ घट्न , कुनै समुह ले जे जस्तो चहिन्छ आफुलाई उस्तै बातावरण बनाउछ यो बजार को प्रकृति, किन्न परे घाटदो बातावरण र बेच्न परे बढ्हो बजार्,सिमित बेक्ती समुह्, मिडिया, को हल्लको भर म चलेको बजार दुनिया म कै भए त्यो नेपाल कै बजार हो, अति नै कम्जोर बजार जस्तो साना लगानी कर्ता ले किने घट्छ , बेच्यो बढ्छ, एस्तो बिचित्र को बजार को बयान गर्न श्री माहादेब ले नि सक्तैनन्, यो बजार मा सोजो तरिकाले कमाएर खम्ल भन्ने हरु नेपाल को पुजी बजार मा उत्तानो नै हुन्छन्, यहाँ झुटो बोलेर , अरु लाई फसाएर , मिडिया बाजी गरेर , ब्रोकेर लाई चिल्लो लगाएर, भित्री चल्खेल नगरि कमाउने सपना देख्नु सपनामै सिमित भैन्छ ।
हाम्रो देश गरीब तथा अस्थिर रज्नैतिक भएको देश हो, यहाँ प्राय कुरा हरुमा दुइ नम्ब्री हरुकै हैकम चल्छ, जनताको मत को कुनै कदर हुँदैन, जनमत को कुनै सम्मान हुँदैन, पावोर को भर म भन्सुन को भर म मन्त्री भैन्छ, एस्तो बिचित्रको राजनीति भएको देश मा आर्थीक उन्नती प्रगती को कल्पना कसरी गर्न सकिन्छ र ? भर्स्टचारि, दलाल्, गुन्डा हरुले कालो धन लाई सेतो बनाउन जसरि पुजी बजार को प्रयोग गरिरहेका छन तेइ मेलो मा साना लगनी कर्ता नि फसी रहेका छन्,
आगामी दिन मा पुजी बजार बढ्ने छाट छैन किन भने:
१) पुजी ८ अरब पुग्नु
२) बोनस शेयर आगामी साल बाट अति नै कम पाउने चान्स्
३) हक्प्रध सेयर नि आगामी साल बाट कम नै आउने हुँदा
४)पुजी बजार को बिकास र बिस्तार नहुनु
५)ढुङ्गे युग को पुजी बजार हुनु
६)सेयर सन्ख्या अरबौ को सन्ख्या मा हुनु
७)सिमित बेक्ती को हात मा मार्केट हुनु
८)सिमित मिडिया लाई मात्रै लगानी कर्ता ले बिश्वास गर्नु
९) अन्लाईन मिडिया ले भनेको कुरा बिश्वास गर्नु
१०)बियाज दर दुइ गुना ले बढ्नु
११) मर्जिन कल ले सताउनु
१२)बैंक ले लोन बन्धा गर्नु
१३)नेप्से र सोबेन को लढाइ परिरहनु
१४)ब्रोकेर्, मिडिया, ठुला खेलडी को टाउको एउटाे हुनु
यी एस्ता कारण ले आगमी बर्ष अझै बढी मार्केट मा सिथिलता छाउने छ, यो साल भएको दिएर पुजी पुर्याउछन र चैत पछी बैंक को अस्ली रुप देख्न पाइन्छ


Yo manxe aja samma positive kura gareko maile suneko chaina, jos le esko kura sunera share beche eslai aja samma sarapxan.

personally my opinion, when the market was down i followed this clown and didn't find any credibility or knowledge based on his claims. Suneko bhar ko bisleshan rather than in depth knowledge.

So sathi haru esto manxe haru le garera share market ghatna thalyo bhane khub faida uthaunu hola. :)

happy investment.
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For beginers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqbSDuoU_5M
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Its all cause of "Nepalese are dumb and too much tolerant".

Is it too late to sharpen khukuri????

Some one was saying in TV, One Bangladeshi was saying, In the world, Only he saw, Nepali are the only people who has no/or have too little nationalism.

Nepalese has no nationalism, no feeling of preserving personal interest (except for criminals), no feeling of right to live with dignity, no wish to live safely (look at road- not many get angry when others drive recklessly.

Sati ko sarap.
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Yo chor broker ajja yo paisa hami mei thopna khoji raheko cha, ek paisa tirdina.

If I have to pay this bloody VAT other than commission and DP charge I will not trade in nepse. J jatti paisa cha etai hos. No more trades.

Remember thula macha haru ko yo chalkhel ma haat xaina bhane yo broker haru ko din sakkinxa.

This could be a blessing in disguise. Remember sathi haru j hunxa ramrai ko lagi hunxa. I have bought companies which give good return over the years.

happy investment
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Registered: Jun 2017
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There should be competition on every sector. I just dont understand how 50 borkers think that they should be allowed to accumulate wealth forever without any serious work. If we assume 50 Cr transacation everyday then each broker gets 50 K in a day.

Income in one month = 50K*30 = 1500 K= 15 lakhs.

Cost per month
office 1.5 lakhs
employee 7 @ 30K 2.1 lakh
Other expense 1 lakh.

So, every broker is accumating ~10 lakh per month without any hard work. If you work as a sachib in GON your salary is ~60 k per month. So a sachib needs to work for 17 months to earn what a brainless, lazy broker earn in a month. Shocking. Isnt it?


So i think, either broker license should be opened for another 50 license or bank should be given broker license. Let there be competition . Let good one survive and evil one perish in hell.

Regarding inland revenue asking brokers to pay taxes. Hell i support it blindly. Brokers should pay as per regulations. Khali basi basi kamaune ? :evil:

If brokers are going for indefinite strick. Hell i dont care. Let there be no transaction for months. :mrgreen: And god damn brokers will come to the ground. :lol:
« Last edit by Somebody on Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:09 pm. »
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Sarkar chor
bank chor
broker chor
nepse chor
sebon chor
NRB chor
Political parties chor
bureaucrats chor
mutual funds chor
Desh ka har ek level ma kaam garne karmachari haru chor.

Ani kasari banxa desh??

K kam rastriyata ko jun desh ma bijuli, pani, sadak, bikash ramro rojgar, talab subidha and health dina sakdaina. tyehi topi lau jay nepal garnu, facebook ma rakhnu, seema subedi lai gali garnu. Jay Nepal.

Ajai ladau sathi haru terai madhesh ko naam ma, baun chettri/ janajati ko naam ma, pahichan ra sanghiyata ko naam ma. Bikash ko development ko ideas k nikalne esto bhrasta failed country ma.

50 jana broker le karobar rokne ini haru aafai le aafno khutta ma bancharo hanne barabar ho. Aafno share trading vayena bhanera tenz nalinu. Aba aafno portfolio lai change modify garne very good opportunity ho.

Like warren buffet said ' buy companies which can promise return even if the stock market closes indefinitely.' I am not worried. Tapai pani estai company linus dhukka hunus.

ASBA jastai trading pani kunai din suru hunu parxa and hunxa pani. Haatar ma shere bechne ko jay hos.

Happy investment.
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Registered: Feb 2017
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Bazarguru ji, thanks your detailed notes on analysis of the companies. It will give us more wisdom to make wise decisions. Thank you once again.
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long term investment is difficult for people who have their main source of income as nepse and for those who buy and sell based on loans.

bearish market ma long term is easy we hold and hold for years untill our amount is recovered. its the bullish market that makes long term absoloutely impossible.

i myself tried various strategies and failed many times, still i fail, still i try. one day i know these companies will give me more returns then any job.

surviving in nepse is difficult if one plays with loan or main source of income is share market. but if some other capital can handle the daily expenses then the share market will never let down. i believe in the market thats why have devoted so much time to it.

happy investment
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I am also a long term investor but when i tried to became a trader once i lost money.

i bought 200 SIL @1005. Within two weeks the price of SIL shoot to 1400. I sold it and right after there was this paid upcapital of insurance companies and price of SIL rose to ~2000. Lost a handsome profit.

After that i swore i will never trade.

Been investing small chunk by chunk continously when Nepse fallback from close to 1700. I am on loss on that amount i invested for last two months but i am sure it will soon into profit.
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So true, I have been investor for so long, and tried to become trader during last 2/3 months, .... lost a looooooooooooooot.
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Sathi haru lai Nepse ma kamaune nei ho bhane, trader philosophy lai tyagera investor philosophy ma pravesh garna ma hardik agaraha garchu. Short term, mid term, long term and contingency factors haru rakhera invest garnu hola.

Bank ma ali ali cash pani rakhnu hola just in case. Hami share investor haru ko euta naramro habbit k cha bhane, bhaye bhar ko paisa lagera nepse ma halxaum ani wait garxaum. 20% always cash hold garnu hola.

Aba kuro aayo pahila aaile ko bank haru ko. good time to add: NBL, ADBL, NMB, SANIMA, NIBPO, NABILP, SBL, NICA, GBIME and many many more. Rights ko pachi ali nalagnu hola.

Buyers haru everyday increase hudai cha. 1 yr jatti lagla but demand and supply will eventually cancel out. There will be even more mergers and acquisitions in the future. Some banks like NABIL, EBL, SCB, NBL, RBB, NIB, GBIME and PRVU will survive others I can't say. So relax and add good companies. CBL and NCCB aaile ali halat thik cahina but esko pani rights diye paxi uthaye hunxa at cheap.

NBL: I like this a lot because esko 4.5 arab ko accumulated loss by next fiscal year pura huncha and will be able to give some cash dividend. Its core business is increasing aggressively and has hundreds of billions in property. Share sampati matra market value herne ho bhane more than 10 billion ko cha and land and building 100's of arab ko cha throughout nepal. NBL was a sleeping giant and has finally awakened. Purano staff haru jadai chan. Naya haru aaudaixan so this is a good bargin. It can provide upto 30% cash in a few yrs time and later upto 50% same like NTC.


CHCL: Upcoming 270 MW projects haru ma 90 MW ta CHCL ko aafnai bhaag ma parcha. Considering the loans and futures revenues (for upcoming 30 yrs) and discounting with an even higher discount rate back ko present gives a decent net present value of 1000-1200 and this current price seem to be a bargain.*copied*

CHCL will provide huge cash and low bonus shares and yo company long term ho 10 yrs+ wala. So slowly invest garnu hola. Es ko price badayera 2800 paryaeko pani hami nei ho, ghatayera 800 lyako hami nei ho. Company ko khi dosh chaina.

HIDCL: Yo government ko company ho. Providing cash to new hydro is a challenge now, but es le pani aafnai subsidy haru kholera future ma projects haru banayera full finance garxa. This too is a long term holding company like chcl. Yes they are having difficulties giving loans, tara yo sadhai hudaina. The hydro industry will be the big player of nepse in the next 5-10 years. This is cheap and safe. Dherai badne aas chai narakhu for some period but dherai ghatnu pani ghatdeina.


Sathi haru lai final euta request. Please be traders 40% and investors 60%. Aaile ko situation herne ho bhane traders 98% chan investors 2%( who eventually give up after these traders sell shares)

And finally big investors haru chalkkhel dekhi savdhan.
Kura sabai ko sunnu decision aafai linu.

Happy investment.
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Thank you Share market ji.

Bazarguru ji, we will wait for your return, and thank you for taking time to respond.
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i want nabilp to come down to 950 and skbbl to 1200. Not sure if it will come down to that level but i will be grabbing it with both hands if it come to that level.
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desh bahira bhayeko le time ma answer dina nasakeko ma chyama magdachu mera forum ka sathi haru sanga.

chittai euta bishleshan garera sabai ko uttar dine prayash garchu.

aaja bhakkar nepse gateko news haru tha paudei chu. ghateko bazar ko faida lina sabai lai agaraha gardachu.

thank you
happy investment
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Currently it is trading below Rs 200.00. If you have a patience i would strongly suggest you to buy HIDCL. With that price it will even give you handsome return from next year. and its a matter of time to reach price of 300 from Rs 200 then other companies share from Rs 2000 to Rs 2500
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Hello Bazarguru ji, hope you are doing good.

I would get like to hear your thoughts on HIDCL for long term, since this is also one of the company in your list. How do you see its growth especially challenged by already existing companies and new companies starting their operations. Plus HIDCL seem to be earning from cash deposit in bank rather than actual investment, though they have started investment and opened up companies on their own.

If we look at their reports one of the challenge they have mentioned is not many companies looking for funds to start hydro power. Given the scenario what are HIDCL's strength for long term growth in your point of view.

Thank you. And as you say, "Happy Investment".
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Thug Modi said, he/they wants to realize dream of "Nehru's doctrine"- take over sikkim through forceful & rigged referendum, military takeover of kashmir and in Nepal- lowlife nehru did not have guts to take over using army cause of population, geography and china, so the thug's plan is to repopulate nepal with bihari.

Nepal's madeshi population is suppose to be around million, but today, its population is around 10 million, around 4 million has already got nepali citizenship by force and they are forcing nepal to give rest citizenship too.

indian home minister said during indiablockades that there are about 10 million indians in nepal.

every time there is political chaos (almost all sponsored or motivated by india), to end chaos, there is always one bill nepal has to pass and that is give citizenship to more dhotis.

during post rana struggle- indians entered nepal,

after post panchyat struggle- indians got nepali citizenship. (i think during mahandra/birendra's time too dhotis got nepali citizenship- there must had been political chaos and black mailing by india too),

after post maoist terrorism too dhotis got citizenship.

now, today, there are so many dhotis in nepal that dhotis themselves are fighting for citizenship for dhotis - they no longer need to use nc, shahs, maoist or past uml (hope uml has changed), rpp for citizenship.


NEVER EXPECT POLITICAL PEACE OR END OF TERRORISM IN SOUTH ASIA TILL EVIL INDIA IS ALIVE.
We can reduce chaos if we fight back rapist india.

INDIA IS THE RAPE CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
ENGLAND IS THE PEDOPHILE CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
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very discouraging political development for the stock exchange. hope it gets resolved soon. General people want to work and get on with their lives, political parties and their chamchas are the new terrorist of this country.

everyone congress ,uml ,maowadi ,biplov , ra ja pa and ck raut are terrorist. sabai jana mileka xan ye chor haru. janta ladaune bhitra bhitra paisa khane.

mahesh ko jayaz maag sabai pura hos. sambidan le kosai lai nachuttaos. everyone should get their dignity and rights. and for all those anda bhaktas who follow their leaders. shame on you for makin the people suffer in the name of the poor and rights.

those who want a different terai country.This will bring a war unlike any seen before and we all know India wont stand another war in its border which is like a pandoras box that will begin in jk, south india, darjeeling, punjab and also china in tibet. not only this India wants a stable nepal and fighting here will only result in a major crisis in south asia where nepal is in between 3 nuclear powers.

and for all who think india will annex madhesh they are wrong who fell to false propaganda during the blockade crisis. India already sees nepal as an informal state( unfortunately due to our corrupt leadership)

Madhesis and tharus are the true nepalese used by political leaders nothing but as a vote bank. Our leaders have failed us.

aaja ko topic halka political vayo.

Honestly no youth, dependence on remittance, extreme corruption. and financial institutions making record profits.

but development is slow. we need stability which nepal shall never have. even after the madhesh crisis is solved a new one will come.


for nepse investors
relax and invest. Nepse has seen bigger crisis than this and will continue to see more crisis in the future. This is the beauty of Nepal and nepse. It is a survivor and those who dare in time of crisis get wealthy financially

happy investment.
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ma pani chcl 1700+ kei pidit ho. i wanted to add yesterday, but i changed my mind thinking of what i had faced with chcl.

mero relative works in a reputed hydrocompany in nepal whose shares are very attractive in nepse as a hydro engineer. he says chcl ko jasto ramro kosai ko chaina because yo nea kei company ho. ppa agreement is better than any other hydro comapny. nepse ko price nahernu company hernu. es ko projects haru complete vaye paxi this will give very good returns. maybe cash initially but excellent like 100-150% nei hola. and bonuses for even bigger projects.

this is a great company. yearly return dinxa. no right shares. we must have faith. and it will grow.

ma sanga tetro bulk qty kunai ko chaina hajur. but i buy companies only based on business growth and hold tight.

till 2 yrs ago swbbl was excellent but last year it just couldn't promise growth so i swapped all swbbl shares with one of the companies listed below. i got good return. but no business growth was just dissapointing.

happy investment.
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thank bazarguru for letting me know your share choices.

I have many that inlcuded in your list.

One scrip,thought being a good one has dissapointed me big time. I got few thousand kitta of chcl and i am slightly at loss. I still have not courage to grab more CHCL but i will do that after 1 yr or when its price gets to 700. I want to get somewhere close to 1O thousands kitta by two yrs from now. I have full faith that CHCL will make me rich in 5 yrs time.

whats your opinion?
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thanks for your comment somebody ji,

insurance is excellent tara one major problem jun chitto aaunecha tyo ho no of insurance companies. 10 life and 5 non life more is absoloutely unnecessary. Nlic nlicl licn and metlife always top.

skbbl is just the best tara asti bhakkar 1600+ ma bechiyeko. aaile uthaune rate vai sakeko chaina. 1200 ko line samma i will wait then jhyappai kini dinchu. this company is awesome.

cbbl and nubl also good tara too expensive.

when i choose shares i see business growth.
banks- nbl, gbime, nib, sanima, mbl,sbl, nabil, nica and many more.
hydro- chcl hidcl
insurance- nlic licn sicl
others- ntc
mutual fund- nmbsf1 too efficient.
micro- cbbl skbbl nubl( this is the best) unfortunately i dont have any but will add soon.

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