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Member
Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
It would be the greatest tragedy if same company increase more when NEPSE begins recovery.
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
Congratulations Gundruk Ji, now you have to make your own decision. I am very confused.

For ex. I thought SIC's target was 1800 and 2000 if there is right, now its price is 2600 and not sure they will be able to conduct AGM this year?

I am very confused, cant give any advice.

Congrats again.
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Registered: Feb 2016
Posts: 60
Dear Rising Sun, Change/Bigul ji and other members,

Can you please help me with a question on GI stocks, mainly insurance. As an investor, I try to stick to value investing principles and like to hold good stocks for at least 6 months to a year (which I know is short by proper value investing rules). I am a small investor and therefore need to rotate my portfolio around a little to increase my net worth.

As a whole, I know the GI sector is set to grow a lot in the next few years and there is a lot of room for them to expand, giving shareholders good returns over the long run (especially when they increase their capital).

My dilemma is that a lot of these shares are now getting overvalued and creating a bubble. I have:

NIL - 100 kitta - cost 1290. Plan to hold and file for right shares.
SICL - 100 kitta - cost 2622. Plan to hold. I think it's the best in GI and will not crash.
NLG - 115 kitta - cost 1210. Confused. I feel like this share is going to take a dip and maybe I should book profits. Also, it's getting overvalued.

What are your thoughts?
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
Badi aya pachi sab lai bagaune.

What a tragedy?
Member
Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
Dont sell undervalued shares tomorrow.

Panicking, greed, over excitement are enemies of investing.

STAY CALM and hold good stocks with good price.
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Registered: Jul 2013
Posts: 93
The Rising Sun Ji,
thanks for response, thinking to buy some once open in market.
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
ब्रोकर कमिसनबारे अर्थ मन्त्रालयले टुङ्गो लगाउने, कमोडिटी मार्केटको नीति यसै आर्थिक वर्षमा आउने
http://www.aarthiknews.com/2016/06/17/54647
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Registered: Oct 2013
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Government to investigate income source of investors exceeding Rs 10 lakh in share transaction
http://www.sharesansar.com/government-to-investigate-income-source-exceeding-rs-10-lakh-in-share-transaction/
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
Rocket Ji, before it went into merger, In my view, it was one of the most undervalued. I think if you can get it at old rate or even higher, looks like a good investment for me.

I dont have any share of that company.
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Registered: Jul 2013
Posts: 93
Dear Sahas Ji/The Rising Sun ji,
would you please advise on Siddhartha Bank Limited (SBL) if it is good scrip to buy for long term? Checking the followings; Eps, pe ratio, growth rate, reserve, future plan, directors background etc.
thank you
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Registered: Jan 2014
Posts: 518
Eps, pe ratio, growth rate, reserve, future plan, directors background are also important for investing.
Member
Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
सेयर बजारमा जोखिम बढ्यो ः धितोपत्र बोर्ड भन्छ
http://nepalipaisa.com/NewsDetail.aspx///id/12422

Some are overvalued companies some are undervalued companies.

Buy Undervalued sell over valued.

Instead of talking about risk whey dont SEBON teach wanna be investors about PE ratio, growth, future prospect.

If we keep on talking just about over valued company, there could spread negativity and whole MARKET suffers.

PE RATIO IS THE OPEN SECRET SECRET ABOUT INVESTING.
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
Be careful new investors, before, investing into some company, try to find out about the background and history of the company too. There are some really really bad insurance company owned by really really bad people.

When investing, invest in the company with below 50 PE ratio. Even to invest in above 25 PE, its growth should he well above 10.
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
New investors.

Have you heard about the last great crash when it was under 1200.

I was not there, but I have heard about it, and I did predict about it one or two year before the crash.

#One of the main reason behind the crash was, the promoters of some companies were also secondary players. To increase price in the secondary market, they used to offer Right share.

-History, could repeat. There are still may promoters who are secondary players too.
For example, companies like EIC, LBL, to prevent price crash in the secondary market, they talk about Right from years early.

LBL, has improved some lately, but till some time ago, it was the most over valued company and still its price did not fall case the evil spirit announced right share years ago. I think, to maintain price, it has been announcing right share after right share. same with the EIC.

NOw, FPO, just imagine, what if FPO of NLIC is rejected. As per the rule they cant even sell FPO @600 but now send proposal to the authoring coating under 3000 price.

What if, they know, it wont be approved, but if they send 3000, price will increase so they can dump the share.

NLIC whose eps could be around 30 but price above 4K. dont you think its price is double the danger level.

Dont blame me if the authority do accept 3000 FPO price, blame the FPO rule.

If it is accepted, I will be making a lot from NGBBL.
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
NEW INVESTORS, it does not matter if margin lending is tighten or not. BUY undervalued, dont buy over valued.

Margin lending in NEPAL could be the tightest in the world.
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
RPG ji, past ma ta news fact hunthyo, views propaganda hunthyo .

ajkal ka fact pani propaganda/false huna thlyo.

CIAA lai kcall garnu parla jasto cha. aba.
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Registered: Nov 2013
Posts: 44
Khai k ho yo market vaneko ta thula players, brokers, patrakar,nrb , nepse & sebon ka adhikari haru ko birta nai po hoki k ho. economic news pani hachuwaka bhar ma . Yo herda ta k lagxa vane hamra online news dine media haru lai afnu anukul ko news ko lagi 2-4 hajar dan gare pugne raixa. Hoina vane ta arthik news ta fact basis ka hunu paryo. NRB, sebon , nepse ka adhikari haru le internal news flash out garnu vayana ni.
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
NGBBL ma jasto fasaune chal ta haina, dalal haru ko.

शेयर धितो कर्जामा परिवर्तनको कुनै तयारी छैनः राष्ट्र बैंक
http://www.merolagani.com/NewsDetail.aspx?newsID=27485
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
More than 30pts down today, almost 3%.

This has always been the biggest tragedy of NEPSE. When it increases, hand full companies price increase, and when it goes down, almost all companies' price go down.

If you want to dump shares, dump of those whose PE ratio is above 100 first, then above 75.
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
What I dont understand about those idiot, so called expert.

They always talk about NEPSE, 1500. Is it even relevant? What we have to look at is growth and PE ratio. What if PE is 10 and NEPSE is 10000?

Can we say, market is over valued?

Who made them expert? Its like they are scratching each other's back.

Media is making those so called experts, experts and those so called idiot experts making media financial media.

Just like in politics, crook in one party is protection crook in another party.
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
RPG Ji, MY view, some overpriced company is overpriced cause of big player not margin lending.

I dont see where they can tight margin lending. It has always been tight. Only difference from past and now is, in the past only handful banks used to give loan against shares, today, few more have joined. and still there are many banks which dont understand investing.

They dont even understand, buying shares is investing in the company, and listed company are more reliable, transparent than private and personal company .

Margin lending is the safest lending out there.

Sure doom is the following lending (politically motivated lending):
बिनाधितो बैंकले दिएको कर्जा उठेन
http://www.aarthiknews.com/%E0%A4%AC%E0%A5%88%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%95%20-%20%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4/%E0%A4%AC%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A7%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8B-%E0%A4%AC%E0%A5%88%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%87-%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%8F%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8B-%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%BE-%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%A0%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%A8/17571



INVEST IN BELOW 50PE COMPANIES AND BE SAFE AND THERE ARE MANY GOOD COMPANIES WHOSE PE IS AROUND 25.
Member
Registered: Nov 2013
Posts: 44
This may be the way of reducing market price and purchasing the share. banking and dev bank is still undervalued. Even Hydro is also under priced. Only insurance is overvalued. There is a rumor of tightening of margin lending by nrb but to achieve the target of 8 arab, there is issuance of maximum right share. So if margin lending is being tight, there will be problems in selling right share too. So I think nrb currently will not review in margin lending policy in its upcoming policy.
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
आफ्ना ठुला र नियमित लगानीकर्तालाई तत्काल बजारमा लगानी नगर्न सुझाउँदै ब्रोकरहरु:

Only life insurance company sub index crossed grave danger level. Some other companies are flirting with danger level. And some are still way undervalued like dev banks.

One was saying, its not right to increase 300%, is he taking about some individual company or NEPSE???







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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
Similarly, the sub-committee has also brought down the lock-in period for the promoter shares of BFIs to seven years against the proposed 10-year period. This means that a promoter might be able to offload his/her shares of the BFIs after seven years of operation. - See more at: http://www.myrepublica.com/feature-article/story/42986/panel-for-reducing-lock-up-period-of-promoter-shareholders-to-seven-years.html#sthash.YxjlSw92.dpuf

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The govt. talking about letting promoters sell their share after 7 year from 10 year till date, after changing the rule, not converting promoter share into general share. (Lock up period from 10 yr down to 7 year.)

My view, promoter share should be converted into general share, 5% every year and let general share holder have right to become chairman of the company.
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Registered: Oct 2013
Posts: 2521
In other forum, investors are talking about compulsory house insurance.

Is is possible? Can one insure 1 crore house with 500Rs? If not, its not possible?

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