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नेपाली सेयर बजार नौ सय विन्दुसम्म झर्ने सम्भावना छः बस्याल
'५० प्रतिशत बराबर करेक्सन हुन सक्छ'
https://www.onlinekhabar.com/2017/12/649153


- It seems like they want to crash the market and let Indian totally control NEPSE buy buying the whole shares. Many indians have nepali citizen too.

- Last year, they sent no body to spread garbage about 1200, and they brought down Nepse to 1200, today, they have sent technocrat.

- Bureaucrat's inaction says, they are being used too.

900 is possible only if Oli is kept outside govt. And bureaucrat will bring down the NEPSE too 900 then after indian takes over Nepse, increase it to 10000.

Sati ko sarap
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दमकमा तीन खर्ब ३३ अर्बको लागतमा औद्योगिक पार्क बन्दै, चिनियाँ टोलीद्वारा स्थलगत अवलोकन

(333 billion just for park, at first, i though it was a print mistake)

उनले तीनदेखि ४ महिनाभित्रमा औद्योगिक पार्कको शिलान्यास गराउने तयारी तीव्र पारिएको छ । उनले पार्कको विस्तृत आयोजना प्रतिवेदन (डीपीआर) फास्ट ट्रकमार्फत बनाएर नेपाल र चीनको शीर्ष तहबाट शिलान्यास गराउने गृहकार्य भइरहेको बताए ।

https://www.kantipurdaily.com/news/2017/12/28/20171228165408.html
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एक खर्बको पूर्वाधार विकास बैंक खोल्न चीनको प्रस्ताव,राष्ट्रपति सिको भ्रमणताका सम्झौता गर्ने
http://www.bizmandu.com/content/-30920.html

-Those who are offering high FD rate will cry, if the maturity period is longer.
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Yes, a majority of NRN are investing on Nepse for long time now albiet in a low scale.

I agree with rising sir. :mrgreen:
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Today, Some NRN may be investing through others- 25/50lakh each. But from many and big ones to join, NEPSE needs NRN law. And NRN organization can invest now without even online trading, so will some more. and when there is online, many many more will join.

It depends in the mentality of sher bahadur's wife and people running SEBON, finance minister giving right to NRN to invest in NEPSE now without even online trading.

Many NRN would not want to invest through their family cause they dont want to disclose their wealth to their family. And for crores and arabs investor- they need Online.
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" ब्लुचिप्स कम्पनीका सस्ता सेयर किन्ने बेला यही हो "
_ (अनिल केशरी शाह, रामबाबु पन्त लगायतका बैंकरहरुलाई त्रि. वि. मा ४० बर्षसम्म फाईनान्स पढाउनु भएका प्राध्यापक डा. मनोहरकृष्ण श्रेष्ठ )

अहिले धेरैले सेयर बजार घट्यो भन्दैछन्, यो डाउनफल हैन, टेक्निकल करेक्शन मात्रै भएको हो ।

more; http://sharelagani.com/2017/12/%e0%a4%af%e0%a5%8b-%e0%a4%a4-%e0%a4%9b%e0%a4%be%e0%a4%a8%e0%a5%87%e0%a4%b0-%e0%a4%b0%e0%a4%be%e0%a4%ae%e0%a5%8d%e0%a4%b0%e0%a4%be%e0%a4%95%e0%a5%8b-%e0%a4%b8%e0%a4%b8%e0%a5%8d%e0%a4%a4%e0%a4%be/
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NRN को सेयर बजारमा लगानी सम्बन्धमा :
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☆अहिले पनि धेरै NRN हरुले आफ्ना नातागोता/आफन्तको नामबाट ब्याक्तिगत रुपमा कारोबार गरिरहेकै छन्, दु:ख गरेर कमाएको पैसा कुनै पनि क्षेत्रमा लगानी गर्नु पुर्व उनिहरु दश पटक सोच्छन् !

☆समय समयमा NRN को लगानी सेयर बजारमा भित्राउने बिषयले ठाउँ पाउँदै आएको छ। दशकौं देखी उठेको यो बिषयमा समय समयमा धितोपत्र बोर्डले आफ्नो ध्यान केन्द्रीत गर्दै आएको छ, अध्यान हुँदै आएको छ, अहिलेसम्म धेरै अध्यानहरु भए, अहिलेपनि अध्यान हुँदैछ, भोलीको दिनमा पनि अध्यान जारी हुनेछ। तर नतिजा सुन्य! यो एकतर्फी अध्यान हेर्दा बिंड चाहिं मज्जाले तातेको तर ताप्के नतातेको भान हुन्छ।

☆अहिले NRN ले लगानी सन्दर्भमा देखाएको चासो चाहिं सँस्थागत लगानीको बिषय हो। तर यस बिषयलाई कार्यान्वयन गर्नको लागी लगानी सम्बन्धी बिधी र प्रकृयाका साथै लगानीको प्रतिफललाई आफु रहेको मुलुकमा लैजाने सम्बन्धमा स्पष्ट आधार तय हुनु जरुरी छ, जसको लागी मुलुकको केन्द्रिय बैंक नेपाल राष्ट्र बैंक (ताप्के) तात्नु जरुरी छ। धितोपत्र बोर्ड (बिंड) र ताप्के बिच समन्वय हुनु जरुरी छ।

आउँदो दिनमा "कुरो हुँदैछ" भन्दा पनि "काम भैसक्यो" भन्ने समाचार सुन्न पाईयोस्।

**copied from Rohan sharma**

Personal opinion
ntc declared 55% cash. So bazar may become negative.

1. good time to add value stocks. buy right hold tight.
2. Until and unless liquidity eases, market will continue to go down.
3. nrn ko naam ma bazar badaune khel bata savdhan. nepse avashya badxa, yehi year badcha ramrari badcha.


sathi haru trader mentality tyag garnu hardik anurodh garxhu.

happy investment.
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NEPSE is suppose to hit (UP) circuit tomorrow, but reality is no body can tell, what tomorrow has stored for us?

- Oli very positive to make NEPSE stable

- 90% sure, Oli will become Next PM.
नेकपा एमालेका सचिव प्रदिप ज्ञवालीले अबको सरकारको नेतृत्व अध्यक्ष केपी शर्मा ओलीले गर्ने पक्कापक्कीभएपनि एकीकृत पार्टीको अध्यक्ष को बन्ने भन्नेबारे कुनै टुँगो नलागेको बताए ।
http://www.newsabhiyan.com/news-details.php?nid=109422

-Solving problem of banking crisis and interest rate crisis is very easy, if Oli cant solve it, he would become worthless.

-NRB organization alone will be investing 10B in the first phase. If SEBON is intelligent enough, They will give them permission within a week since they wont be needing online trading for this, and if sher bahadur's swasni is smart enough, she will order SEBON to give them right to invest, before sher bahadur resigns to get support from investor in Next election.

AND STILL NO ONE CAN SURELY SAY, WHAT NEPSE WILL BE TOMORROW.
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In the world, this kind of NEWS makes market positive:

कम्युनिष्टको बहुमतपछि सेयर बजार अस्तब्यस्त बनाउन खोजे : ओली
ओलिले आफुलाई ब्रोकरहरुलाई हाल लगाउन खोजिएको भ्याटको बारेमा पनि राम्ररी थहा भएको बताउदै बजारलाई अस्तव्यस्त बनाउने प्रयास भएको पनि बताए ।
‘भ्याट आतंक सृजना गर्न खोजेको कुरापनि मलाई थाहा छ, निर्वाचन सम्पन्न भइसकेपछि पनि काम चलाउ बनेको सरकारले बजार अस्तब्यस्त बनाउन खोजेका छन्,’ ओलीको आरोप छ ।
मूल्य अभिवृद्धि कर सम्बन्धि निर्देशीकाको दफा ४.१७ ले सेयर किनबेचसंग सम्बन्धित सेवा, सेयर निष्कासनलाई पनि छुट हुने विषयमा उल्लेख छ । ओलीले आगामी सरकार गठन पछि सम्वृद्धिको यात्रामा सबै सहभागी हुने र पूँजी बजारले पनि आफ्नो बाटो लिने उल्लेख गरे ।
https://www.onlinekhabar.com/2017/12/647299


चिनियाँ राष्ट्रपति मार्चमा नेपाल आउने !
http://www.newsabhiyan.com/news-details.php?nid=109183


But in Nepal!!!!!
We need NRN, they say, NRN are more qualified Nepalese and those living in Nepal (including, majority of investors, media, bureaucrat, politician are ..... )
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आगामी सरकार बनेपछि पुँजी बजारको आतंक समाप्त हुन्छ : ओली

अब बन्ने सरकारले पूँजी बजारलाई प्राथमिकता राख्ने ,पूँजी बजारबाटै
पूँजी निर्माण हुने भन्दै उनले शेयर बजारलाई थप सहज र सरल
बनाउन आफुले सक्दो प्रयास गर्ने बताए।

more; http://merolagani.com/NewsDetail.aspx?newsID=37376
« Last edit by mero sathi on Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:46 pm. »
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यस्ता छन् पूँजीबजारको मार्गचित्र :-

अबको पूँजीबजारको विकासका लागि केही निश्चित कामहरू गर्नैपर्ने हुन्छ, जसले
नेपालको पूँजीबजारको अवस्था विश्वका विकसित मुलुकहरूको स्तरमा पुग्न सक्छ ......

more ; http://dainikeenews.com/13297/
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Is not there any INTELLIGENCE AGENCY in Nepal, who would kidnap Rebatbahadur karki & Company and keep them in Cell where terrorist is kept and interrogate? Ask them names of those who are manipulating NEPSE, cut their skin if needed. Govt could get 10s of billions in revenue as a fine from them.

Oli should start such Intelligence Agency, FIA (Financial Intelligence Agency) whose job would be keep an eye on Financial irregularity, investigation etc like share market manipulation/insider trading, VAT fraud, money laundering/hundi, terrorist financing etc.


Civilized countries would have investigated a long time ago.
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Looks like, sellers know something many does not.

Is the World about to be Nuked? Good luck with the cash in their hand.

When is shere resigning? Sati ko choro
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I also agree that good insurance and good microfinance are good to invest.

i dont have NLIC with me. I hope to jump in if price come between 1750-1800.

I am also eyeing for NLG.

:mrgreen:
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अहिलेकाे Nepse १४०० काे रेञ्जमा रहेकाे मान्नुपर्छ । किनकी NTC लाइ ६३० बाट ९४० पुर्याएर बजार नघटेकाे देखाइएकाे हाे । नत्र बजार छिटाे Recover भइसक्थ्याे । Insurance र Micro finance काे Capital कम, Share Flow कम, ग्राेथ बढी भएकाे र लामाे समयसम्म बाेनस र हकप्रद निरन्तर अाउने देखिएकाेले मूल्य केही बढी देखिए पनि लगानीकर्ताहरु यही Sector प्रति अाकर्षित देखिएका छन् ।
« Last edit by Ramesh N on Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:49 pm. »
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There's no to be left in overpriced insurance sector. And microfinance company is on the avoid list
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Bishnu Prasad Basyal, CFA
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बाम नेतृत्व सरकारले अब उद्योग चलाउन छनौटपूर्ण निर्णय गर्छ, डा. युवराज खतिवडाको लेख
http://bizmandu.com/content/-30632.html


राज्य नियन्त्रित उत्पादनका साधन, उत्पादन प्रणाली, जनशक्ति ब्यवस्थापनले उत्प्रेरणा भएन, काम गर्न प्रोत्साहित गर्दैन। यसो हुँदा नाफाको संभावना पनि कम हुने भयो र आफ्नो प्रतिभा देखाउने ठाउँ पनि भएन भनेर नै नियन्त्रित अर्थव्यवस्था त्यागिसकेको अवस्था छ।


हाम्रा कति यस्ता क्षेत्रहरु हुन्छन् जहाँ निजी क्षेत्रलाई प्रतिस्पर्धामा नलगी हुँदैन। दूरसञ्चार उदाहरणका लागि लिन सकिन्छ। हवार्इ क्षेत्र पनि निजीकरण गर्नुपर्छ। २०४९ सालतिर फर्किँदा बाँसबारी छालाजुत्ता कारखाना पनि जग्गासहित विक्री गरिँदै थियो। त्यसलाई रोकेर जग्गा दिइएन, कारखाना मात्र बिक्री गरियो। धेरै नोक्सान हुन पाएन। अहिले त्यो जग्गामा हस्पिटल खुलेको छ।

हरिसिद्धि इँटा टायल वा भृकुटी कागज उद्योगमा पनि यही मोडालिटी अपनाएको भए राज्यलाई घाटा हुँदैन थियो।
निजीकरणको विरोध हुँदैन थियो।


पूँजी बजार

पूँजी बजारलाई ब्यवस्थित ढंगले अगाडि बढाउँदा त्यसको माध्यमबाट पनि अब बन्ने सरकारलाई बर्षमा एक डेढ खर्ब पूँजी परिचालन हुन्छ। यो क्षेत्र बामपन्थी नेतृत्वको सरकारका लागि पक्कै पनि अवसरको क्षेत्र हो। ठूलो मात्रामा पूँजी संकलन हुँदा शेयर बजारमा स्थायित्व पनि आउँछ। विदेशी लगानीकर्ता आए भने नेपालकै पूँजीबजारबाट पनि अलिकति अवसर लिन सक्छन्।



समावेशी आर्थिक वृद्धिको एजेण्डा बनाउँदा धेरै मान्छे पूँजी बजारमा सहभागी होउन् भन्ने पनि चाहेका छौं।पूँजी बजारलई समावेशी आर्थिक वृद्धिको मोडेलको रुपमा पनि लान खोजेका छौं। त्यही भएर त जलस्रोतमा धेरै शेयरधनीहरु भएका छन्। गाउँगाउँमा शेयरधनी छन्। सबैको शेयर लिस्टेड हुन्छ बजारमा। राष्ट्रिय पूँजी निर्माण गर्ने भन्ने कुरा एमालेको घोषणापत्रैमा लेखिएको छ। बैंकिङ च्यानलका साथै राष्ट्रिय पूँजी निर्माण शेयर बजारबाट पनि गर्ने भन्ने हो।


मान्छेको उपभोगमा जाने पैसा, सम्पतिका रुपमा जाने पैसालाई फाइनान्सियलाईज गर्ने भनिएको छ। यो गरेपछि मात्रै कहाँ एलोकेट गर्ने भन्ने निश्चित हुन्छ। यसका लागि शेयर बजार अगाडि बढ्नु पर्छ, स्थायित्व हुनु पर्छ। तर स्वस्थ ढंगले।


People invest based on two principle- intelligence and tradition.

Majority of people are not intelligent enough, that is why they dont invest in share in Nepal. But. in nepal, there is culture/tradition about investing in GOLD, Land that is why people invest there.

Govt should create culture, tradition where general people would invest in share market for long term as assets. And to protect general public, govt should make Share market stable- prevent over valuation or under valuation or crash. And to do that, introduce market maker.

Nepal's market is way undervalued, make it stable and suggest people to invest. Today's investment will make them financially stable in 10/20 year even if they just invest a few lakh. Give them loan, if necessary. For this govt should give them training and loan and make market stable.
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I agreed with meroprofit ji.There are only two prerequisites for NEPSE growth .One is the substantial policy change in banking sector and the other is to increase the portion of real sector in NEPSE. In the present scenario banking sector dominated the NEPSE with around 70%portion. If there is no any positive policy change in banking sector , it is difficult to NEPSE growth The other way make growth NEPSE is to make real sector compulsory to list in NEPSE. The new government is in test for this case. But if we watch the present condition of market ,there seems no space of growth .Either it may take time to digest the volume growth of stocks in market.
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US has many companies making a lot of profit that is why their GDP is 18T$,

Nepal has few companies making less profit that is why our GDP is 25B$ (official no).

With time, there will be more companies in Nepal making profit, then GDP will grow too.

NEPAL IS NEPAL CAUSE OF LOW PROFIT, US IS US CAUSE OF BIG PROFIT.

Bureaucrats, experts believe Nepal's GDP should be close to 50B$.

I believe Nepal's GDP is way bigger than 50B$
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For NEPSE, the logic of comparing ratios of Market cap to GDP seems completely inappropriate as BFIs and two others, NTC & Unilever make up more than 90% of current Market cap. In Developed markets where all large corporations are listed in the exchange, level of market cap to GDP tend to show if markets have got expensive or cheap. But without the major real sector including almost none of agriculture sector listed in NEPSE, it’s very difficult to compare corporate profits to GDP or market cap to GDP ratios to reach any conclusions.
While agriculture and industries contribute almost 50% of GDP, BFIs specifically contribute close to 25-30% to GDP in Nepal. Current market cap to GDP of ~ 70% shows BFIs in NEPSE are exceedingly valued compared to other countries in Nepal, where investors have no choices but only to invest in BFIs.
And I dont believe at all that regulators in Nepal are engaged in finding right balance between GDP & market cap!

I believe new reforms(or call it new fundas) like online trading, NRN investments, stock broker license to banks, margin lending etc. will not have much impact in the market if the companies couldn’t show strong earnings growth this year. BFIs had liquidity crunch last year, CoF has increased rapidly and their interest spread and earnings growth has decreased substantially this quarter, & it might take another 6-9 months to make these stable, so I personally dont see strong earnings growth this year compared to last year.

There might be few fair value pockets still left to buy in the market, but overall current Market cap to GDP implies market is already reasonably priced and BFIs need to honor their promise of earnings growth after capital increment for even sustaining the current level of valuations.
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I'm in this forum since 2013. I enjoy reading by Rising Sun, Ramesh N, Keshav ji and alike. Though not much active in writing. But sometimes I do it.

Here is what my understanding on the future of Nepse. Please read full and comment.

Current market capitalisation of our capital market is 17.68 Kharba (as of today) and our national GDP is approx. 26 Kharba. This means market capitalisation to GDP ratio stands at 68%. Studies suggest that ideal ratio is 75% and if we take it as our standard benchmark, there is additional space of 7% in Nepalese context. However it's an exception that the US market once had 125%.
Now, online transaction and NRN entry are the most awaited events into Nepalese capital market which will surely drive current index to 2500 or more and market capitalisation to 25 Kharba+. In such a case, this ratio would reach almost 100% to make our market over-capitalised.
You know that both are mandatory to make NEPSE of international standard. We can bet NRN won't be interested to enter unless they introduce fully online system.
Therefore, in my reading, hearing and observation, there is a tacit understanding among Nepse, Sebon, NRB and Ministry of Finance on how to control capital market index of Nepal from over-capitalisation. That's why time and again, they bring in the threats of money laundering issue, VAT issue and alike to control Nepse, whenever it goes up.
Since no one can stop online and NRN in near future, they want to bring Nepse as down as possible so that index wouldn't over capitalise. The recent announcement of NRB to recalculate GDP by applying new method is an example to balance GDP and market capitalisation. It's already known that recalculation would make our GDP over 30 Kharba.
I guess this recalculation will be followed by introduction of fully online transaction and NRN entry. So, the conclusion is...in one year's time frame all three tasks would be complete- recalculation of GDP, online transaction and NRN entry. And that...your investment NOW too would be almost double by then.
Does it prove something friends?
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If you are land broker, sell land, buy shares.

Shares could double in 6-18 month, but, could Land price double in 6-18 mth.

Even you can sell gold and invest in shares. Gold could crash for short or mid term.
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sadesat ko ante kaile huncha?
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2 barsa samma no confidence motion darta garna paudaina.
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गठबन्दनकाे बहुमत हुदैमा स्थिर सरकार हुने हैन साथीहरू ,भरममा नपरैा। पहिले पनि एमाले र मावाेवादीकाे सरकार बनेकै थियाे नि ।पार्टी एकिकरण भए मात्र स्थिरता हुने हाे।

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